Girls 2010 All State

[boot-it]

anyone else on here see what i mean-- can you at least give me that??? again- i am not saying it is right or wrong. i am not judging that. i am simply trying to state WHY MO does this. it's for national award purposes. no more or less. i showed plenty of states that are in on it. and he wants me to find out if 1 lousy state does? cmon people.....really? have i proved that?

[schoolcomesfirst]

[Region2Fan]

[quote="boot-it"]what do you mean "are you talking about this"??? are YOU that stupid? did you not see that there is a seperate private, small and large school FOR EACH YEAR?? copy and paste that! the only people laughing are laughing at your stupidity!!! i am literally rolling with about 6 other people at how off base you are.

the ORIGINAL post stated "WHAT A JOKE TO HAVE A SEPARATE PRIVATE/PUBLIC COACHES OF THE YEAR. BOY I WONDER WHO GOT THIS STARTED?". it may be a joke? but i answered with a fact. it is what it is.

minime says- How come Illinois does not do it this way and many many many other states? i cant answer that. not sure what they do. but as for teh many many other states part-- i proved that tahts not teh case. i named off 8-9 just from that list. i would say that makes it more that DO.

and FOR A FACT- per the PRESIDENT of teh MO soccer coaches association, they do it this way FOR THE NATIONAL VOTE. talked to him MYSELF. wouldnt expect you to believe that, so i tried to prove it a different way.

continuing my recap- which you apparently need- you said "Why don't you show us how many States do it the Public/Private thing. Here let me tell you 0, Goose Egg, Nada".... but i just showed you that other states do INDEED do it the same way. BECAUSE IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE NSCAA, you are required to do so.

the you attempt to change your language and say "and did not find anywhere where Missouri had to do this"... i dont know that they HAVE to do it. but thats what they DO do. And for the reason stated above. i would think all states do this too, since we do in MO. But i am not SURE that they do. thus- never said ALL STATES. not that i recall.

just to get some factual info here- i took it upon myself to email the pres of ilhssa....he is teh coach at neaqua valley. when he responds, i will let you know. i also emailed a member of teh selection committee for nscaa for clarification, and any "by laws" that state teh case.

i thought that the post where there is EASY TO READ lists to compare-- so you could see definitively that there are coaches from each state in different categories-- ielarge, small, and private...that you would then admit your stubburness. i didnt wanna take up so much space with a cut n paste- but just to please you,,

High School Boys
Large School
Region, Coach, School
Central: Jereme Rainwater, Lake Central High School (Ind.)
East: Chris Bleam, Parkland High School (Pa.)
Far West: Timothy Flynn Barmettler, Highland High School (Ariz.)
Midwest: Chuck Scanlon, Apple Valley High School (Minn.)
New England: David Halligan, Falmouth High School (Maine)
Rocky Mountain: Tim E. Denisson, Cheyenne Central High School (Wyo.)
South: Dominic Thorton Wren, Northwest High School (S.C.)
Southwest: Hans A. Kleinschmidt, The Woodlands High School (Texas)

Small School
Central: J. Kevin Myers, Washington High School (Ind.)
East: Daniel L. Orbaker, Holley High School (N.Y.)
Far West: Kevin Cram, Kapa'a High School (Hawaii)
Midwest: Paul Beggin, Mahtomedi High School (Minn.)
New England: Christopher Ruiter Morrill, Newmarket High School (N.H.)
Rocky Mountain: Rob A. Hill, Cody High School (Wyo.)
South: Shelley Marten Blumenthal, Blacksburg High School (Va.)
Southwest: Alan Turner the, McKinney High School (Texas)

Private/Parochial
Central: Paul Bartoshuk, Detroit Country Day, Mich.)
East: Marty Berman, Seton Hall High School (N.J.)
Far West: Jon-Paul Mangarin, Hawaii Preparatory Academy (Hawaii)
Midwest: Craig Ewing, St. Thomas Aquinas High School (Kan.)
New England: Mario Pereira, LaSalle Academy, R.I.)
Rocky Mountain: James M. Rich, Rehoboth Christian High School (N.M.)
South: Michael David St. Martin, Mount St. Joseph High School (Md.)
Southwest: Wiliam J. McDonald, Strake Jesuit College Preparatory (Texas)

High School Girls
Large School
Region, Coach, School
Central: Ray Petrisin, University High School (W.Va.)
East: Holli Mulholland, Shenendehowa Central High School (N.Y.)
Far West: Stacey Finnerty, San Clemente High School (Calif.)
Midwest: Skip Begley, Hinsdale Central High School (Ill.)
New England: Martyn Davison, Brunswick High School (Maine)
Rocky Mountain: Tom Hirschman, Eldorado High School (N.M.)
South: Judson Hamby, Parkview High School (Ga.)
Southwest: Chris Stricker, Coppell High School (Texas)

Small School
Central: Hollie Bonnema, East Grand Rapids High School (Mich.)
East: Joseph Kovaleski, Lakeland High School (Pa.)
Far West: Bob Welch, Bend High School (Ore.)
Midwest: Christopher Miller, Southern Boone County High School (Mo.)
New England: Nelson Mingachos, Immaculate High School (Conn.)
Rocky Mountain: Dan Watkins, Wheat Ridge High School (Colo.)
South: Claire Collins, Broad Run High School (Va.)
Southwest: Carl Wiersema, S. H. Rider High School (Texas)

Private/Parochial
Central: J. Chris Moore, Sacred Heart Academy (Ky.)
East: Dale Stoltzfus, Lancaster Mennonite High School (Pa.)
Far West: Richard Carrigan, St. Francis High School (Calif.)
Midwest: Christopher Marinelli, Madison Edgewood High School (Wis.)
New England: Daniel DeForest, Burr and Burton Academy (Vt.)
Rocky Mountain: Jamie Schock, Juan Diego Catholic High School (Utah)
South: Sara Geiger, St. Pius X Catholic High School (Ga.)
Southwest: Bruce Deaton, Ouachita Christian School (La.)


now if you go through(and this is just 2009), other recent years, you will probably find that most states do this. i am not sure that they ALL do because i am sure that there are states where a coach hasnt won an award.

now illinois may have a system where they have a winner in EACH category(large, small and private), and decide on 1 to push for the award? i dont know. but just because MO PRINTS the winners for each class, doesnt mean that they are THE state rep for THAT LEVEL(ie large, small, private). i dont claim to know that either. maybe illinois doesnt put the list of candidates up like MO does. who cares? not me. BUT I BET that liberty coach gets the large, westbrook gets the private, and whomever went furthest in state from teh small school section gets that nod. not sure, but i bet. and then the AREA/REGIONAL rep takes those names in to the call, for our state. we are in region 5(mcvey reps) and that consists of (Ark., Kan., Mo., N.D., Neb., Okla., S.D.)......i bet FROM THAT group then, there is 1 rep for EACH division, and so on...... you follow me???

make sense?? or do you still not get WHY MO HAS A PRIVATE< LARGE< AND SMALL SCHOOL REP?????

i am sure the coaches honored are thrilled. so who does that bother?

btw- did you notice it says LARGE, SMALL,and PRIVATE/PAROCHIAL on the top of each list? wouldnt that lead you to believe that what i say is fact. you see it with YOUR OWN 2 EYES!!!! my god, ho wmoronic can you be?

"Your stretching it now I never said division or school size is wrong so don't go there. Here how come there are not any PRIVATE/PUBLIC or STATE colleges coaches of the year separated?"....dont know- dont care... who does? you? seriously? and you couldnt sense teh sarcasm in that post?

and what am i off base in? please explain....you do make me feel stupid because i lack the vocabulary to get through to you and get you to understand.

maybe you should take a logic class in college. it could help.

if those emails get back to me- i'll let you know. tell then, have fun with your pals on teh pitch....what a maroon...

funny you didnt address any questions i had of you, and check if your boy TW was a member, etc....again- typical laziness. i do all of YOUR work, just to prove YOU wrong.....jeez[/quote]

Boot-it,
50/25 has been proven wrong again! He always acts like he knows more than anyone but in the end is always proven to be wrong! He wishes that he had the inside scoop on some of these things that others do in fact have. I have never seen him do his homework the correct way. When he does decide to do homework, he only copies what he wants us to see and never the whole story showing that he was wrong AGAIN!

[chuck44]

A Coaching Organization that honors coaches? What a concept?

[boot-it]

oh schoolcomesfirst- cmon.... i have a "teh" problem when i type the.....or vice versa...lol....kind of a backhanded slap at public school kids. classy. real classy.

either way, what point do you see of 50's?? there is none. he doesnt make one.

chuck-- i see where youre coming from. to a degree. but the nscaa does more as a coaching organization then voting for a coach award. there are numerous player awards, recogniztions of contributions to teh game by NON players or coaches, education, clinics, courses, etc. it's not like they only do this voting stuff....know what i mean. i'm sure you werent impying that all they do is vote, but i see the irony that coaches vote for coaches in that situation.

thank you region2, at least SOMEONE here sees the simplicity of this. any one else?

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[boatnut]

The thing is, 99.9% of the people on this site really don't care, the people your arguing with can be found in almost every argument on this site, and they are always right(and sometimes they are) regardless of facts, or how petty the point is, and the guy who agrees with you is even wackier, he don't care about your point, he just doesn't like them!
YOU CAN"T WIN, who's right doesn't matter, it's the fight that matters...

Super Mod should be cleaning this up soon, hopefully ALL the cr@p gets deleted this time....

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[boot-it]

to all- you'll have to excuse me. i dont frequent the site as much as other people. obviously by my post count. so i dont know about region2's history, etc. all i know is SOMEONE agreed with something i said. so my apologies if i thanked someone out of turn.

but OT- seriously? what has 50 asked me to prove? you asked me to take 5 mins to read what region2 has said or what people say about him, ?? well-- take 3 mins yourself, and reread what 50 said...can you? i literally dont see how this is even an argument. it's like arguing that 2+2=4....it's just a fact.

again-- THE MO SOCCER COACHES GROUP has a large, small, and private coach nomination for the STATE because that is what is voted on BY THE NATION!!!! it's really no simpler than that....

i realize people like to argue- but cmon. all i stated- granted in a "long winded" way- was that you can go to the nscaa site to verify. you people are hysterical. i would put a dramatic reading of your posts up against any seinfeld or chris rock stand up routine.

[boot-it]

"boot-it, You don't have a clue, this picking a Public and Private coach of the year is not for representation NATIONALLY Its out right stupid. Why don't they just pick ALL STATERS based on if their parents make between $30,000-50,000 is on one team $50,001-$80,000 on another and over $80,001 yet another. Why don't you show us how many States do it the Public/Private thing. Here let me tell you 0, Goose Egg, Nada,"--50/50 original posted reply.

notice this part---"boot-it, You don't have a clue, this picking a Public and Private coach of the year is not for representation NATIONALLY. thats what 50 said. and i have shown that it most definietly IS for national purposes. so OT- how have i not proved anything 50 asked me to? he still hasnt answered MY question of what states DO NOT do it this way....notice that.??????

"Could you please post a link of what you are saying cause I did go on their website and did not find anywhere " ---50/50

so i did post the link....again pointing out the large, small, and private headings.

i dont know what other proof a guy or guys need to show that the reason MO soccer coaches do it this way is because every member of nscaa does it this way....

OT---really, i proved nothing?? cmon....give me some credit here...

[boot-it]

and to boatnut- thanks for the honesty...it seems youre right on./